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NHS staff 'don't want to come to Gloucestershire' over pay fears, campaigners say

By Gloucestershire Echo  |  Posted: November 23, 2012

Lisa Crooks

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NHS staff do not want to work in Gloucestershire because of controversial proposals to increase working hours and reduce pay levels, according to activists.

A number of NHS trusts in the county are members of the South West Pay Consortium, labelled a 'pay cartel' by union members, which is looking at saving money by fixing pay at a regional level rather than nationally as is currently the case.

While there are no cast iron plans on the table, there are fears that the mere prospect of a regional pay deal is putting off nurses and doctors from coming to the county.

And more than that, existing employees may be starting to look elsewhere for jobs.

Lisa Crooks, a nurse who works in the area who is a Royal College of Nursing activist, said: "It is having an effect. We have posts that have been advertised externally where we have had no applicants because no one has any interest of working in an area that is a member of a consortium.

"Staff are going to great lengths to find out if organisations are part of a consortium and if they are then they are not applying for these jobs.

"As well as the expert staff who may be looking to come in to the county are not, the expert staff here already are now looking elsewhere to work. I know of staff who are looking for employment outside of Gloucestershire because they think 'why should we potentially do our job for less?'"

A spokesman for Unison said: "There is already some evidence that cartel trusts are starting to have difficulty in recruiting and retaining staff.

"While none of the trusts have made any firm proposals as yet we are aware of cases where members from outside the south west have applied, or considered applying, for jobs in the region but having heard about the potential cuts in terms and conditions, have declined offers or not applied at all."

A spokeswoman for the 2Gether NHS Foundation Trust, one of the members of the South West Pay Consortium, denied the claims.

She said: "We do not believe that there has been any downturn in the numbers of applicants for positions."

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  • GlosYap2  |  November 24 2012, 10:39AM


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  • Bonkim2003  |  November 24 2012, 1:11AM

    GlosYap2 - yes too dim to notice the high intellectual content of your post.

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  • GlosYap2  |  November 24 2012, 12:35AM

    Bonkim, and you must be the local chap who resorts to ad hominem when he fails to argue his point?

  • Bonkim2003  |  November 24 2012, 12:23AM

    GlosYap2 you must believe in the conspiracy theory and that everyone around you is waiting to do you in. Best not to shatter that nightmare.

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  • GlosYap2  |  November 24 2012, 12:05AM

    Bonkim, absolute cobblers! The only "belt tightening" is the noose around the throat of the average worker in this country. The bankers and politicians do as they always have, through good times and bad... become wealthier at the expense of the people. Dont think the false stories in the right wing tabloid rags havent gone unnoticed either! "Gold plated pensions" so only the rich are entitled to a decent standard of living in their old age?

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  • Bonkim2003  |  November 23 2012, 10:19PM

    Chobblers - in a free market if you have talent, you will maximise your potential. If the local NHS feels they want you, they will have to pay the market rates at your location.

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  • Bonkim2003  |  November 23 2012, 10:18PM

    GlosYap2 - it is for local/central government, private and nationalised industries to decide on staff wages, and conditions. Just because an organisation is national or international does not mean a universal wages and employment policy. By some quirk, government/nationalised employers had been on a good wicket including gold plated pensions - the taxpayer shelled out - envy of the private sector which produces the wealth to pay for public expenditure - in any market place employers/employees will bargain for the best deal to suit each other - otherwise there won't be a deal. I have no problem with that. we all had it good all these years - belt tightening all round from now on I am afraid.

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  • Chobblers  |  November 23 2012, 8:27PM

    You paid for my training, some of the best in the world, so that I could provide you with a service free at point of use to us all. The mutual trust has now been severed by financiers not clinicians. Regrettably I will have to take my skills to the private sector to feed my family. Private firms can now offer equal or better terms. So you will have to pay again now to get from me what you once had for free. I am not happy about this but this is what you let happen to me. I am not an industry, I am a vocation. I hope you can afford to stay healthy.

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  • TheNub  |  November 23 2012, 4:17PM

    saving money my xxxx frank harsent gave sara trulove the green light to waste £635000. on system 21 to nose around and see what ways they could save money what have they saved so far they implemented mars which was a way around redundancy so they could employ staff on less money that must have cost thousands in one department they are slotting managers into made up jobs there is no extra work .its just jobs for the boys .when is the local MP going to have a look at the amount of money frank harsent and sara trulove have wasted are they going to be sacked and sent on there way the sooner the better .

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  • GlosYap2  |  November 23 2012, 2:22PM

    Bonkim, regionalised pay deals are not an issue restricted to the NHS! Furthermore when certain areas, by dint of their geographic location, will be unfairly penalised in any regionalised pay deal shouldnt it be the remit of local politicians to raise that concern where appropriate?

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